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Yes, absolutely!
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Yes, but ill probally be dead once this happens..
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Maybe
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No!
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Offline Kale

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« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2005, 09:26:22 am »
Well, I think its perfectly possible, it just needs to be achived. There has been rumors going around about artifically grafted tails, (its popped up at least once on forums i visit) and when they become availiable, i might have one, depending on price and of course, sucsess rate, and how real it looks. I do hope they resarch the full process, but i doubt it will be in our lifetime.
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« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2005, 06:50:44 pm »
Fur grafts, tail plants, facial surgery, all extreme solutions to what seems like a trivial question: Can I be more like an animal in form and function? Obviously some humans are growing desperate to emulate other, more physically capable species in the animal kingdom.

At this point, medical science is making leaps and bounds in the understanding of physiology, but is still limited in the ways it can be changed to treat ailments. Generally there are only two means to this effect: drugs and surgery. Drugs aren't as well understood as one would hope and have often proven to have an equal and opposite reaction, and surgery is limited in scope, difficult, expensive, and poses myriad risks.

For the purpose of treating disease and injury, medical science is far more capable than it was a century ago. However, it would be foolish to use the limited medicine of today for anything else. Those who modify their bodies into the image of animals have been left to the ingenuity of not doctors but artists. The practice of such extreme modification will require techniques that will cater to both.

The future likely holds such devices as those similar to the replicators in the Star Trek series of television and cinematic productions. Using cold fusion technology the properties of anything, including living forms, can be altered to the precise specifications of the user. This heralds in a time when one can change "species" as easily as one would change clothes. And it's closer than you think.

Form versus function is an important question in making these determinations. Some, and not even critics, have raised the fact that a real life furry would not look as flattering as depicted in paper and digital media. Regardless, the capability to emulate the forms and functions of animals raises interesting possibilities.

Some might equate becoming an anthro furry to wearing a fursuit, but it is much more than that. Being able to modify the human form into anything does not simply mean one can be a furry, but one can look to nature to enhance human engineering. Any combination of features for form and function can be utilized, making it possible to live comfortably not wearing a fursuit but being one.

For instance, being the size of a human, covered in luxurious fur (and hopefully wearing some clothing) and unable to sweat may be quite hot in the literal sense, but having large ears like a fennec fox that radiate heat could help offset this, not to mention funnel sound far better than human ears.

Whether such a thing is ethical now is a moot question. I am confident that the development of such technology will have an effect on society much more profound than the ability to look like an animal. This type of socialogical singularity is impossible to predict, but one thing that one can always predict is thus: make it possible and it will happen.

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« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2005, 07:02:13 pm »
I donít think you can rely on medical science for this
Itís illegal and will immediately result in the revoking of any medical licence for a doctor to alter the human body away from the perceived norm.
Apparently breast implants are the exception to that
And genetic science isnít in to much better a state
About 499 in every 500 attempts to create a clone fail
At the moment genetically altering a living animal is rather limited
They made some rather brawny rats
Introducing an active gene for muscle development into the muscles using an engineered virus
Iíve made my statement and I stand by it, but I could be wrong.

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« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2005, 08:53:07 pm »
Anything's possible.Sooner or later they'll figure out a way.

But would I do it? No. I would rather wait until we have fully functional mechanical limbs and organs and become a mechanical being rather than an animal.A cyborg if you will.

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« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2005, 11:04:06 pm »
note:  some things in this post may offend those of highly Christian moral values and may cause some ppl to not like me.

I am personally quite for the science of gene therapy.  it'd be the way to create the perfect, or at least superior, being.  to me, that perfect being would be the anthropomorph.  I believe that it is the solution to human weakness.  it would give them claws, fangs, fur, heightened senses, everything one could possibly desire in that sense.  I disregard all moral values in this sense due to the fact that I cannot get around how much I have always desired to see this as a reality.

I would jump for the chance to undertake the process, as I have given much thought into what a real-life anthro person would look like (without ink and cartoonish appearance), and believe this form to be superior both genetically and in looks.  I believe that not only would the adaptations to the body be more advanced using this science, but I find that the human body would be even MORE attractive that way.

however, I must also point out that this reflects how I want to live.  I have a personal preference for the wilderness over the city, so I would do better with heightened senses and the works.  also, since my personal fighting style does not require the use of firearms and goes more towards natural weapons, I cannot begin to describe the improvement I would experience to my life by the addition of claws and fangs and fur and the likes.

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« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2005, 01:56:33 am »
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Well I said yes. And when it does become possible. Im going to have it done  if its not way way expensive
and I also agree with you agentfox002.

if sumtime in the near future sciencetist can use & modiy the contents in Nucluar waste then they mite have a fighint chance that mite happen but whos know what would happen from now til the future O by the way I voted yes cuz I see all these cartoon/drawn pictures of anthropomorphic furries and how they look I think it would be totally AWESOME cuz if we had fur it would keep us warm in the winter and our furry ears would help us hear better and if we all had a muzzle/snout/etc then we could smell alot better and farther as well.
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« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2005, 04:27:31 pm »
I picked yes, but I'm probably gonny die long before then. I can't see us figuring it out any time soon, but who knows what we are capable of far in the future.

I'd do it though, if there was any way.
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« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2005, 01:33:07 pm »
I voted yes as well..  ':blush:'

And there's not very much i can add to the topic - seems that everyone else has said it for me.

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« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2005, 01:50:59 pm »
I read an article once abotu a cosmic surgeon who had found ways to give humans wings and tails and such by moving a few bones around (ribs for wings etc.)
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« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2005, 02:26:04 pm »
Its like this thread just wont die   ':shock:'  LMTO

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« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2005, 02:59:25 pm »
Sure, why not? I'll try anything once...

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« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2005, 06:48:10 pm »
They certainly will. The rate at which research and testing on body-modification surgery and genetic engineering is increasing rapidly. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing the first real Furs appearing in the next 20-30 years...but then again I am an optimist, so go fig

There's also a little snag, though, that the world, according to the Mayan calendar, will end on Dec 24th, 2012. Now, they said this cycle of creation, not the end of existance. They could be synonymous, but somehow I doubt it. It could very well mean that creation will be remade and begin another cycle, which might also bring about the appearance of anthros, especially if we have any say in it.
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« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2005, 06:53:43 pm »
I think it's very much a possibility for someone to cosmetically look like an anthropomorphic animal. I mean, I think it's a possibility right now. From what I know of medical science, here's how I see it happening:

- Fur: Well, all someone has to do is come up with a full-body Rogaine drug. Certain fur patterns could be obtained by, say, tattooing the skin and hoping that it colours the hair as it grows out. (Grooming would be a problem, obviously, because the thing is it would just keep on growing).

- Face changes (muzzle, etc.) - Enough time under the knife of a plastic surgeon. We've seen it done. You stick some fat, or cartilage, or something like that to imitate a muzzle and anything is possible. Ears are the tough part, but you may not have to do away with them depending on how far microphone technology advances allowing you to transmit signals into the original ear canals.

- Tail: Not too much of an extension, because humans technically already have a tail of sorts, being chordates. Actually getting movement of the tail would require some work in stem-cell research, something that is pretty controversial as it is, but if it was good enough for Christopher Reeve...

- Extremities: *shrug* Can be done. Pads might be the difficulty, not sure how they'd do that.

It is the *genetic* creation of an anthro that is much more difficult, and much more potentially immoral. I will not comment on it at this time, as I believe that it is a long ways away.

And of course, do cosmetic change and it's much more difficult and expensive to reverse.

Hey, if it gets cheap and I need 15 minutes of fame, I'd do it.




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« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2005, 07:18:14 pm »
Heh. I wouldn't doubt that, if the human race lasted so long, that it's going to happen eventually - biological perfection, and not just to emulate animal shapes. But by any stretch of today's technology, no. The pain, the cost, the probability of failure and death itself, it doesn't appeal to me.

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« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2005, 07:44:14 pm »
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- Fur: Well, all someone has to do is come up with a full-body Rogaine drug.

Meh I already look like I've been using a full body Rogaine drug, so at least I already got that down. Feels good to be furry.. err.. hairy.  '<img'>
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« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2005, 07:58:32 pm »
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Well if you ever watch Ripley's Believe it or not, there are already anthro operations, bodies covered in tatoos, whiskers surgically implanted, and teeth operated on to look like cat teeth. Its already a reality!!!

Oh Stalkingcat! I know him in person ^_^ his claws on his hands are great for scritching.

I did a video interview of him for school once too.

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« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2005, 08:09:41 pm »
Meh I already look like I've been using a full body Rogaine drug, so at least I already got that down. Feels good to be furry.. err.. hairy.

Another Italian? Hehe... >.>

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« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2005, 08:25:37 pm »
I got some Italian in me, some other European stuff too though. Quite the mutt.
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« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2005, 09:22:33 pm »
BTW, if it existed i would prolly try it.

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« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2005, 05:06:48 am »
............anthro operation heh heh fun but no I'd have to say not as cool as that would be if it is possibly discoverd somewhere along the line we'll probably all be dead by then or it will be in some massive nuclear explosion resulting in disgusting mutation then you'll be hunted down by all of mankind hidden away in some secret government facility experimented on possibly turned in to some kind of weapon if all their constant poking proding and whatever else it is they do doesn't kill you first....oh yea that sounds great lol

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« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2005, 11:17:50 am »
If you ask me the same question a year ago, i say it wouldn't be possible in our lifetime, however in the last month reading from several articals, the possibility of ability to change your DNA for human-animal hybrid could be made possible earlier than expected, likely in our lifetime after all.

If it does happen I would become a wolf-human hybrid anyday, i just hope that the moral issue don't slow it down too much.

if its between the op of gene threopy ill got for gene therory

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« Reply #71 on: February 11, 2005, 06:39:45 am »
well the closer i can get to an animal the better so ^_^ im all for it *hurry up!* i want a tail ':cry:'

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« Reply #72 on: February 11, 2005, 09:31:00 am »
I think i reamember a guy that thad coral implantedint his forehead, for horns.

anyway, i said yes, just because i want a tail.
And i woul not have it done if it came from an animal.

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« Reply #73 on: February 12, 2005, 05:14:50 pm »
My, my... so much to say on this...

I personally think that where there's a will, there will one day be a way.  According to this thread on another board (scroll down to the 5th post), the human brain can supposedly adapt to, for instance, an implanted tail if it's done right.  And as for fur, you could probably have real animal fur implanted with the same thing they use to do those hair-transplants for bald people.  That would take care of the markings too.

I'm a Christian but I don't really see anything I could object to about this; if someone wants to alter their species let 'em do it.  All the stem-cell research involved would be animal stem cells (or so it would seem), and I have no problem with that.  The only reason people could possibly complain about this is because it's "unnatural."  *Pfsheh!*  I myself wouldn't mind having such an operation done, but only if it would produce a complete transformation -- I would consider anything inbetween to be freakish.  Seriously, that cat guy is scary!
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« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2005, 05:30:30 pm »
When it comes to genetic engineering and RL anthros, it's not that far off. Take a good look at GoldenWolfen's concept of an Arctic Wolf Anthro. To actually get such a creature, it wouldn't take much modification at all: basically, alter the genetic code of the canine brain to increase the number of neocortical neurons and/or the interconnectedness of these neurons, and pretty soon you'd hit the "magic number" that would make them every bit as intelligent as we are. Other than that: minor physical alterations.

(Although I do believe that foxes would make better "raw material" in that the genome of fox-kind is more unstable, and, hence, more malleable. Furthermore, foxes are already more intelligent than any canine, so there'd be less mods that the vulpine brain  would require to push the intelligence into full-blown sapience -- they aren't that far off as it is.)

This will be do-able, probably by 2015, if not sooner. Secondly, there are a few universal desires that all human beings have, that cross all cultural lines, that have appeared in every culture ranging from primitive "savages" to the most sophisticated civilizations. One of these was the dream of flight. From ancient Indian writings of many thousands of years ago that describe aircraft in loving and exact detail (they even had a name for an airplane -- vimhana -- millenia before the Wright Bros. came along. To the little golden figurines of supersonic jet aircraft that the pre-Columbian Inca made, and so on...

The other one is human/animal combinations. They exist in the literature, mythology, and folk-lore of every culture. Over sixty years before the discovery of DNA, H. G. Wells speculated on how it might be possible to create RL Furries: The Island of Dr. Moreau. Given the desire for this, and the ability to do so... well, if a thing can be done, it will be done.

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