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The 2nd American Civil War
« on: September 28, 2019, 05:26:18 pm »
This whole impeachment stuff happening in Congress right now is getting pretty damn volatile. If it gets any worse, I fear what Trump and/or his supporters or Republicans might do. Especially Trump. Even if Trump gets impeached and removed from office (I know, that's like asking for a miracle.), would he leave? Or would he resist? Would we be on the precipice of another American civil war pitting those who support Trump vs. those who oppose him and his flaunting of the Constitution and laws?

I kinda fear what may happen if Trump gets pushed against a wall so to speak. He's a loose cannon. And he has too many in the White House and in Congress who support him and his ways.

There's just such a scenario that recently got published in a new fictional book. "Our War" by Craig DiLouie. Look it up at your nearest library or on Amazon or other retailer.
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Re: The 2nd American Civil War
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2019, 09:35:39 pm »
Nope. don't think anything like that will happen. First the US Armed forces have never trusted Trump. Remember the letter from the Pentagon that was sent to all our allies? A hand full of brainwashed wackos wont stand a chance. The republican party is teetering on complete disaster. It wouldn't surprise me if those who blindly defended Trump got ripped apart by other republican waiting to take their place. Be nice to see the real republican party back in office. Not the power mad fear mongers holding office now. With the Patriot Act laws in effect any web site or broadcast of any kind promoting action against Americans will be taken down. The creators dealt with as Enemy Combatants. And don't put to much thought behind Trumps continual lies. They're getting crazier by the rally.  He's desperately trying to hold on to a shrinking base.

And I wouldn't worry to much about a book. Honestly don't think trump supporters have had anything to do with books.

Personally I can't wait till Trump is flat against a wall. He's a con man who believes his own lies. The stuff that'll start coming out of his mouth will be solid gold. My favorite one so far is "presidential abuse" . That's when high courts keep slapping back all his executive orders because their unconstitutional. He's being abused because he can't get his way. Like the wall that is now, as it has always been, unfunded.

Might be a good idea to put a "Not going to happen" option on your poll.
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Re: The 2nd American Civil War
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2019, 12:38:58 pm »
The proverbial brown stuff just hit the fan.........sort of.  :o

Cause, you think and say there won't be a new civil war regarding all this impeachment business? Maybe you or others need to read this. The drumbeats are getting louder and the natives are getting more restless every day.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/30/politics/donald-trump-civil-war-impeachment/index.html
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Re: The 2nd American Civil War
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2019, 01:16:55 pm »
It's one thing to think you have that kind of influence and power. It is a whole other story to actually get people to kill others. The crazier he gets the more his fan base will see him for what he is. The more he's pushed up against a wall the more violent and vile he will become. The networks that support him are pros. They know the line between freedom of speech and treason. Trump doesn't. He's a con man that believes his own lies. He'll get farther pushed over the edge when he looses his cable network support. Because they're not about to support any talk of raising arms in his name. Trumps power and popularity is based souly on fox. They will have no choice but to pretend they've been deceived. Fox will put on drama shows playing out how their good name has been dragged in the mud.  Fox has lied for years. They're good at it. And their fan base is so easily controlled Fox can tell them anything they want.

Trump is continually nailing his own coffin shut. Shooting himself in the foot. Painting himself into a corner. However you want to call it.

Farmers are getting hit hard because of Trumps 'Good at the deal". Reality has a way of ruining lies. No matter how deep ingrained they are. His influence and fan base are shrinking on all sides.
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Re: The 2nd American Civil War
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2019, 01:51:14 pm »
It's one thing to think you have that kind of influence and power. It is a whole other story to actually get people to kill others.

The crazier he gets the more his fan base will see him for what he is.
Maybe. Though I have to wonder.

 The more he's pushed up against a wall the more violent and vile he will become.
And the more desperate he will become. Which worries me about what he'll say or do next. Desperate people do desperate things.

 The networks that support him are pros. They know the line between freedom of speech and treason. Trump doesn't. He's a con man that believes his own lies. He'll get farther pushed over the edge when he looses his cable network support.
If he loses his cable network support. And let's not forget, he even has support from the NRA and religious groups.

Because they're not about to support any talk of raising arms in his name. Trumps power and popularity is based souly on fox. They will have no choice but to pretend they've been deceived. Fox will put on drama shows playing out how their good name has been dragged in the mud.  Fox has lied for years. They're good at it. And their fan base is so easily controlled Fox can tell them anything they want.

Trump is continually nailing his own coffin shut. Shooting himself in the foot. Painting himself into a corner. However you want to call it.

Farmers are getting hit hard because of Trumps 'Good at the deal". Reality has a way of ruining lies. No matter how deep ingrained they are. His influence and fan base are shrinking on all sides.
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Re: The 2nd American Civil War
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2019, 10:23:40 pm »
Fell like I am between a rock and a hard place as in I do not care for Trump but respect our political process. This noting more than a  judicial coup. 

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2019, 03:36:21 am »
The NRA is under fire from it's own members. Kinda like how the furry fandom feels about the media. When you take a lot of really decent people and make them all look like brainless loons. Evangelical support? CNN isn't free or far from fake news. They quote one whack job. The guy who claims Trumps wall will be like the walls of Heaven. Just because one whack job supports Trump doesn't mean all evangelicals do. I don't know of any evangelical who supports him. Nor non denominational. Including myself. And as far as that one wacko goes he wouldn't be the first church leader to get tossed in prison. He's not the first to tell his supporters to do something stupid.

 The best part about all of this? If Trump gets impeached and ousted from his position all these song birds are going to start singing. They'll sing their hearts out to keep from going down in flames with him.  Trump is a con man. He knows this. The stuff that'll start coming out of his mouth in the next few weeks will be solid gold.  The harder his back is up against the wall the more he's going to lash out at everyone around him. And like every cult leader who's gone over the top. People start leaving. I've lived long enough to see this over and over again. Manson, Moony, Jones and Korech. And a few others. They get left with a small core of people. Wait long enough and even these people get disillusioned.

I have no idea what a judicial coup is. But I do know how people react when a President breaks a federal law. I remember Nixon. Watched it all on a black and white TV. This is nothing more than rinse and repeat. The difference is Nixon was a classy crook. Not a con man. 
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Re: The 2nd American Civil War
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2019, 01:59:24 pm »
Something really odd just happened. Fox new network actually reported the truth? They claim by their own polling President Trump should be impeached. I told you these rats are looking for ways to keep from going to prison. Even if their poll gave the other response they're still going to look for ways to cover their own backsides. They've played the poll joke before. Claiming that 110% of Americans believed Obama needs to be impeached. And all sorts of other lies and propaganda using polls. They will go farther than this against Trump. They have a lot to cover up. They've lied for months now on the crimes committed by Trump. Don't worry about their brain washed viewers. This isn't the first time Fox has done a complete 180 on a subject. People who have been trained to not think for themselves will believe the last thing they are told. Even if it contradicts everything they've been told before. Bat crazy fun watching all these confused brain washed people trying to add 2+2.

Trump is screaming like a mob boss who just found out all his best wise guys are leaving him. He's screaming at the republican party to be loyal to him. Screaming at Fox for their claim most Americans believe he should be impeached. Folks, this bat crazy ride should get a lot funnier in the next few weeks.

A war needs a solid foundation of belief. The executives at Fox are not willing to go to prison over the lies they know they've been pumping out.
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